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#209: The Sales System Every Coach Needs to Know
Do you love coaching but hate selling? You’re not alone!
In this episode of Make It Visible, I sit down with sales expert Keith Harrison to break down the sales system every coach needs—and reveal what a closer really is (and why they could be the missing piece in your business).
Meet Our Guest: Keith Harrison
Keith Harrison is a sales coach and operations expert specializing in helping sales teams eliminate the stress of CRM management so they can focus on what truly matters—closing more deals.
Originally from Dublin, Ireland, Keith now lives in Tel Aviv, Startup Nation, where he founded CoFounder Club, a thriving community of 4,000+ tech entrepreneurs. With a sales career spanning nearly a decade, Keith has worked with top companies like WalkMe (Unicorn), ClickedIn (6-figure sales annually), and Salesforce. He is a certified expert in Salesforce, Sandler Sales, and Tony Robbins coaching techniques.
Keith believes mindset matters more than skill, and in this episode, he shares exactly how coaches and entrepreneurs can optimize their sales process, master their CRM, and turn more leads into paying clients.
Connect With Keith Harrison
- Website:https://cfclosers.com
- LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-cfc/
- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/CRM.Coach.K
- YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@cfclosers
Key Takeaways:
✅ Why most coaches struggle with sales (and how to fix it)
✅ The role of a CRM in making sales easier & more effective
✅ When should you hire a closer for your coaching business?
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Hey, you're listening to Make it Visible Podcast. I'm your host, michelle Kui. I am a visibility marketing coach and soon to be your business bestie in the coaching business world. Not knowing how to connect with your audience, grab people's attention and get them excited to buy from you should never be the reason you give up on your dream to become a full-time coach. I'm all about making marketing the easiest part of your coaching business, so that you can turn a passion for coaching into a visible and profitable reality. So buckle up, ladies, let's get started.
Michelle:Today I am excited because I know this is a conversation that a lot of you keep coming back to me and said Michelle, I don't like the part about selling. I enjoy everything about coaching business, but not the sales part. How do we address that? Well, honestly, I am not the expert of sales and I used to struggle as an introvert. I used to struggle with sales conversations. So today I got good news for you because today I invited a sales expert who's going to tell you everything about sales Keith Harrison. Keith is actually an expert in sales and now sales coach, and he helps sales teams who don't like the hassle of having a CRM to stress on their plate. So he is the expert stepping in in helping you to accomplish that awkward moment of how do I do this? So welcome Keith.
Keith:Thank you, Michelle. It's great to be here. I don't know about everything in sales, but I'll certainly answer some questions. You tell me where you want me to kick it off.
Michelle:Well, I think you do mostly everything, at least everything that coaches need to know Not just coaches, but coaches entrepreneurs. When it comes to sales, there's always that awkward moment of how do I do this and how do I transition? I know I can offer someone motivation, coaching, but how do I transition into that conversation? So I would love to hear how did you get into the industry in the first place?
Keith:So how I got into the industry. I actually started off in retail. Believe it or not, the family back in the day was all in retail selling clothing. This is before the internet, where people actually went to shops to buy their clothings and stuff. And then I went into retail myself and I was selling confection, baklava, dried fruit, nuts, all that kind of thing, importing it globally. And then 2007, 2008, kicked in.
Keith:If you remember your history. The whole world went up in smoke and I thought I was a rich man and went bankrupt completely. This is back quite a while ago. That's what got me into sales at the beginning the fact that I could actually do something without holding any stock. It's just no problem. This company doesn't work, this offer doesn't work. We move to the end.
Keith:So you mentioned a lot about not knowing where to do and entrepreneurs and different people. That's why I'm telling you this story. My mindset is totally different on sales. I'm like excellent, let's do this. I don't have to worry about stock and going bankrupt, and it's kind of like I'm unshackled and I get to enjoy myself. I kicked off door to door, as you do back in the old days when Internet was just a box you used to hold in your hand and if you want Internet, I have Internet if you want Internet. So that's where I actually started.
Keith:And then we were speaking before the podcast. A couple of years later. Europe kept going bankrupt so I decided to hop on a flight, move over to sunny Tel Aviv where we had beautiful weather. Startup nation got into technology sales and then I've been going through technology sales commission only sales. One thing leads to another and then I basically sell things and I show other people how to sell things. That's kind of like six years condensed.
Keith:The sort of punchline here, when you were explaining what I do and all things sales and entrepreneurs is that when we think of sales, there's really two things that we want to consider sales operations and sales skills. Now the majority of sales coaches and sales trainers they're talking about sales skills. This is how you hold a conversation. This is how you introduce pick up the phone and start dialing. Rapport introduction, qualification, discovery process, discovery qualification maybe a pain step for a bit of fun. Start that closing loop, closing process, objection handling. There is all those sales skills and, believe me, I can hold that conversation. I do sales training all the time, but it's the sales operations that I really focus on and the sales operations.
Keith:If you can nail this down, 90% of the sale is actually done for you just from the operations. And the operations is a collection of processes. Before the call, these are the six things you have to do. After the call, these are the 10 things you got to do. When someone asks for a quote, you press these six buttons. So these are all processes. You put them together, you got your sales operations and the CRM. Even though people think it's the technology for your customer relationship management, in reality it's actually the technology that houses our sales operations. Now, this is my profession, really what I do for a a living. I make sure people get this part down, and once this part is down now it's super easy to work on your script and perfect your process. Whether you're a one-man operation, whether you're a sales team, you've got to start with that sales operation.
Michelle:So you're dead in the water there are so many things I wanted to ask you about the CRM itself, because I do believe that having the right tools will actually help you work more efficiently as you're developing the skill, and I think that's a very important part of the notion is that a lot of coaches they don't realize that they need the tools to help them to make their skills more efficiently so that they can work better and smarter and not harder. But before we go into that, you mentioned that you were in retail for many, many years and I was wondering what was the biggest lesson that you have learned from coming out of retail and selling those confettis and all the things that you have done, of retail and selling those confettis and all the things that you have done.
Keith:It wasn't the only thing I'd sold. But the biggest lesson I promise you is solvency versus liquidity. I'm holding stock. I'm not like.
Keith:Why do I love the sales profession? You told me before that a lot of your viewers they're afraid and they worry and they're not sure how to do it, whereas my mindset is totally different. I'm free, I don't care. I speak to someone and they say something rude to me, no big deal, go have a good day. On to the next, I have no cares. This is the difference.
Keith:This is the lesson that I learned in my profession sales. I can just go out, have some fun all day. I speak to people. I profession sales. I can just go out and have some fun all day. I speak to people. I enjoy myself. I make sure that I solve their problems. It's kind of like that game of hide and seek. Okay, you give me 200 numbers to dial. I know eight to 10 of them need what I got. All I got to do is go find them and at the end of the day, who cares if there's a problem? Okay, it's not like I'm holding $50,000 worth of stock. I'm just good to go on to the next day and if I have a bad day okay. Over the course of a week, a month, it's all going to balance out. So that's the lesson. This is fun.
Michelle:It's interesting because would you say yourself is more introverted or extroverted.
Keith:Oh look, I'm extrovert, I know me, I don't care. Or extroverted oh look, I'm extrovert, I know me, I don't care. I'm happy to say silly stuff and do silly stuff Like we all have fears. Okay, I go into every single sales calls. What 15 years later? With butterflies in my stomach. Every single time especially when I'm on a new offer that I've never done I get a new client. It's a new offer. First couple of calls, like I'm just half terrified. Once you get into the conversation, you go through the flow. You know the script, you know the processes. I'm an extrovert.
Michelle:Yeah, it's interesting because I asked that question, because a lot of my audience are introverted and we find that extroverts are very attractive. And they're attractive because the way and the methodology that they use they're just people. People and introverts are quite the opposite, where we find enjoyment for, oh, we'll stay quiet, we'll do video, we'll do podcast. But if I have to be given a choice, I would rather do the podcast because I don't have to be on the video, right? But we find inspiration, aspiration from someone who's extroverted like yourself, who's not afraid of being out there, and what you bring to the table is just so much for us to learn that you have no idea how many of the introvert appreciate extrovert. We tend to gravitate towards extrovert. But let's talk about your CRM, operational aspects of sales. There's a lot of people out there thinking about CRM. I'm immediately jumping into oh, there has to be a program that's out there that work on this. So they're thinking about the program itself. But exactly what is CRM?
Keith:So CRM stands for Customer Relationship Manager. What exactly is CRM, which was your question? It's a spreadsheet. It's nothing more. It's just a spreadsheet with a fancy user interface UI, if you've heard that term that makes it clean. Ultimately, that's all a CRM is. If you want to go ahead and use a spreadsheet, google spreadsheet, go ahead, but it's going to get lost once you got all these different sheets and lists and details.
Keith:So, the right tool for the right job. Michelle, you said it earlier you ever seen a builder with 20 years of experience trying to screw in a bolt with a hammer? I don't care how much skill he's got or experience, he's not getting the bolt in there with a hammer. Okay, he's going to need a screwdriver. He's going to need the right tool. And it's the same thing here. I don't care how wonderful a sales coach you are, you got 20 years of experience. How wonderful a sales coach you are, you got 20 years of experience. You don't keep track of your leads, contacts, deals in a nice CRM, a tool. You're not going to remember to follow up with these 50 people a week. You're just, you're not going to do it. So we'll get into the CRM now. I know this is where we're going. But if you're an entrepreneur, a small business, you're starting from day one. If you're a sales team pulling $400,000 or $500,000 a month, it doesn't matter. The CRM you have to have or you will not be able to build and manage your business.
Michelle:You got to have the tool in order to get the job done and manage your business Like it, just it's you got to have the tool in order to get the job done. So earlier you talked about there's six steps or six process in the CRM, whether you do it on a spreadsheet or you do it inside a program. What are those six steps?
Keith:Did I say six steps? Let's put it into six steps. Let's have some fun.
Michelle:Hey, I pay attention to those six things that you're going to need for the operation. I pay attention, so I am going to dig, dig as much as I could.
Keith:I think I was just coming up with particular examples of things, but when it comes to the don't worry, I'm kidding, I get your question the processes which lead into the sales operations, the first thing you want to do and again, I have a few courses, I have free versions of these courses, so feel free if any of your users want to go check them out the very first thing you want to do is you want to actually map out your goals. What do you want your CRM for? Number one, I want my CRM to keep track of my leads that come in from wherever they come. I want something to be able to send periodic emails. I want something to be able to phone people. I want something to keep track of deal information. I want something from me. I want metrics and reports so that my partner can see them whenever they want. It doesn't matter what. It is Something that you said a couple of minutes back that the tools and the technologies and people choosing the tools first.
Keith:It should be the other way around the right tool for the right job, and that's kind of what I was getting at with that screwdriver analogy. First you got to assess what's the job I have clients and after speaking to them, it turns out they need more marketing technologies and less CRM technologies. Wonderful, let's go HubSpot. Let's go high level. Let's go something there. Let's go active campaign. Let's go click funnels.
Keith:Okay, if it's a more traditional sales team, then it's completely different. Let's go pipe drive. Let's go fresh. Different. Let's go Pipedrive, let's go FreshSuite, let's go Salesforce. So you're not really going to have me be able to say this is the best CRM and this is the one you want to use. First we need to know what's the use case, what do we need? And then it's no good looking at all these CRMs and say, well, I get more features and benefits with this one. That's the best one to go. It's like well, do you need all of that? Because if you don't, you just paid for something that's going to it's bloatware. It's a waste of your time. You really need to know what you need it for before we ever talk about what CRM is correct.
Michelle:Yeah, yeah. I think the problem a lot of coaches and and entrepreneurs who knew, or who somewhat knew, is they're managing a small number of of client relation right, but they hear the crm and and it sounds so fancy so they jump right into it. And I love how you point out the fact that you have to have a goal and you have to know what exactly are you trying to accomplish in order to pick the right tool. And I'm curious, because we bring up Salesforce and Pipeline and ActiveCampaign and all these other marketing software as well as Sales, pipeline and CRM. What is your opinion about the all-in-one tool?
Keith:In theory it's a wonderful idea. In practice, it's just, it's not going to happen. The problem with an all-in-one tool is that, okay, wonderful, Are all these seven tools that come together good tools, or are one of them really good or one of them not so good? Hubspot is the best example of this. It's awesome for marketing. So I'm told, but the CRM side of things, it's like okay, can I have custom views? Can I modify this? They're like no, no, no, no, no, that's not how this works. I'm like you're supposed to be enterprise-level software. What's going on here? So it's yeah, it's that kind of like. I specialize in sales teams. I'm very quick to tell people I know marketing. I very quick to tell people I know marketing, I know marketing systems. But I'm going to refer you to one of my colleagues or one of my partners when it comes to the marketing side of things, and that's why I was giving you that example.
Keith:You are an entrepreneur, Michelle. You have a podcast. Are you calling people and keeping touch base with them regularly, or are you putting them on mailer lists? If you're putting them on mailer lists, you need a marketing technology. If you're putting them on call lists, you need a CRM technology. So, yeah, you really need to know the use case and all-in-one technologies. That's your problem. If the marketing team are kicking ass on ClickFunnels, okay, why make them come to a different system that they may or may not be happy with? Like, who really cares? At the end of the day, we can connect the two systems, so let them be on ClickFunnels. All of my sales team on Salesforce will do an integration. Everybody's happy. That's my opinion. I'm not a big fan of all in ones.
Michelle:I love that. Neither am I, and I have to say that hotspot that sales force because otherwise you're losing a really valuable part of your business asset and business revenue by not having a sales team on board in your business. So I would love to hear you talked about the course, and we haven't really got in terms of how your role comes in for helping the sales team and helping entrepreneur. So I would love for you to talk about exactly what do you do and where do you come in, how your role comes in for helping the sales team and helping entrepreneurs.
Keith:So I would love for you to talk about exactly what you do and where do you come in. So if you go to my website, cfcloserscom, you'll notice I put a little thing up the top there for sales teams that don't want the hassle of CRM stress. I'll take care of that. That's kind of the answer to the question. Where I come in, I have plenty of free courses and plenty of paid courses for people who just want to set up that CRM for the very first time. So that's sort of where they'd go. It's like look, this is what it is. I do workshops, I do weekly Q&A over Zoom for anyone who sort of just needs that little bit of help getting it up and running. The reason I'm giving you that answer is because in order for me to be super effective, I need to work with a sales team that has actual inbound, actual leads, actual activity, as opposed to just setting it up for the sake of setting it up. Think about this logically If you have a team of, let's say, two people and you've got 10 booked calls a day and we can do the mathematics on how this all goes through, and 20% close rates, and each one of these deals is, let's say, $5,000. So if we plug that in over the course of a month, well, if I can build them a system that is going to be 5%, 10% more effective. Each one of those guys is taking in another three or four calls every single day, day between the two of them. On a 20% close rate, we can calculate that up. That's potentially putting in another five to 10 deals a month at five grand a pop. And that's just quick math, because think about putting your notes in, we've got AI for that. Or you just put in a quick something Think about looking for quotes, finding emails, creating templates just boom, boom, boom.
Keith:Salespeople are there to sell. The majority of salespeople sell maybe 50 to 60% of the time. That's it. Because they're doing data entry and silly work and looking for things and forgetting things. If we can have the CRM, just do all of that for them. Now you can have a salesperson that can go back to back for whatever eight to 10 hours. So yeah, we're talking about money. I just want to make that super clear. Michelle, you bring me in. When 10, 20, $50,000 a month is on the line, I'm going to come in and I'm going to plug that gap immediately within the first 30 days. That's where I come in typically.
Michelle:I love that because I think a lot of people are not realizing how important it is for someone to actually jump on the call. It's great that you plug your leads into a mailing list, it's great that you plug your leads into a program and system, but you need someone to actually be there to follow up, to create and build that trust, build that relationship afterwards or beforehand, in order to close that sales. I think a lot of what we're talking about here really it's brand new for a lot of people who are accustomed to the use of online internet. Right, because in the online internet, we emphasize a lot about lead generation, getting more leads, but what do you do with the leads? And I think what you bring in is something that is really valuable and perhaps might be new to some of the people, and they might have heard the term closer. So how is closer different or maybe it's the same? What is a closer?
Keith:So a closer, also known as an account executive, we're the guys that actually do the sales calls. So I don't want to go too technical on this, but if we're going to go down, predictable revenue, aaron Ross, typical business sales systems. You've got inbound teams. Okay, so also known as BDRs, sdrs, business development reps, sales development reps, sometimes sales development managers, whatever you want to call them. They deal with leads. Now, a lead is someone who's potentially interested in what you do.
Keith:In marketing terminology, there's two types of leads. I said I was going to try not going too technical here, but I got to go a little technical. You've got market qualified leads MQL and sales qualified leads SQL BDRs, also known as their job is to qualify the leads into the deals or opportunities, the MQLs into the SQLs. Everybody starts as a BDR center. I did it for many years. I kicked off and walked me back in the day in technology and I did it for quite a few companies on the commission-only circuit. It's where we all start, then you go to the next side of things. Only circuit. It's where we all start, then you go to the next side of things.
Keith:Now, instead of working with leads MQLs now we're working with SQLs sales qualified leads. So these are typically meetings with the sales team, with the use case, and they're basically coming to find out if the product is right or not right. Our job is to meet with those people and effectively make sure we guide them to the correct solution, which should be our product. If it's not our product, I mean I'm not going to sell in bad faith. But at the same time, let's call a spade a spade. If I'm not closing 20 percent, 25 percent, I'm out of a job.
Keith:There's no second chances, there's no bad months. So that's the profession Setter is a little bit more forgiving. There's no second chances, there's no bad months, so that's the profession Setter is a little bit more forgiving.
Michelle:I'll be honest, I get a lot of email about setters and closer and a lot of time, up until now that you clarified it, I keep thinking they're all closers, they're helping you to close the sales, like even the setter, and I think that's a very important distinction, especially for people who are looking to expand their business, to understand that there's a difference. And so what do you want to do in your business and I do love that number with the closer that you can increase the sale by 20%. I need that 20%. Everybody can do that.
Keith:I kind of remind people that that's what I do. Oh, so you build fancy CRMs. It's like, no, I increase show rates. We're looking for 80, 90%. Do the mathematics on that? You're getting 50%. I boost you to 90%. All of a sudden, your bottom line's pulling an extra 20 to 50,000 a month.
Keith:Like more calls, more effectiveness, the CRM I'll go back to the beginning, Michelle. The CRM is the technology that houses our sales operations. You make that more efficient. It's like turning up to a racetrack the Formula One in a Formula One car versus a Toyota Corolla. Which do you think is going to get podium? I'll give you a little hint. You turn up in that Corolla, you'll get think is going to get podium. I'll give you a little hint you turn up in that Corolla, you'll get around the track. Sure, but good luck placing anywhere.
Keith:This is kind of the profession. This is what it's all about. This is what I do. This is where I come into play. When I'm having a conversation with someone, I'm not talking about the features and benefits that you may or may not need. And, Keith, where do you come in versus where do people start? You start on the features and benefits and what you need. When you need a guy like me.
Keith:It's about okay, what's your close rate? How many calls are your guys taking? What's your automation procedures? How much time is your reps doing data admin versus actually selling? What's your call times? Do we need BDRs to do outreach? Do we want to just get AI agents, Like I've got partnerships with telecommunications companies using AI agents? This is voice. I don't mean SMS, I mean voice. So that's what guys like me actually do, and I just think it's pretty insane that people are spending, you know, 10, 20, 30,000 a month on lead generation, and then another I don't know, 5, 10,000 a month on the best sales trainers, and then let's go budget on our CRMs. It's like, guys, what are you doing? It's like this is the tool to bring home the bacon at the end of the day. I'm sorry, I'm kind of passionate about this.
Michelle:No, no. I think it's really, really valuable for all the listeners and viewers who actually think about what is it that you need and what stage you are in your business. Right, because that would be important to determine your goal and whether or not you're losing that 20 to 30 percent by just having someone on the team or in your business to actually close that revenue, close that tie for you. I think a lot of entrepreneurs are focusing on the small, immediate picture. They're not looking at the big picture here and a lot of them hire based on the small, immediate step oh, I want just to get that three clients or five clients or 10 clients but they're not really looking at the overall structure of how they're creating their business.
Michelle:And it goes back to what you talked about. You need to have that operational first before you even think about, oh, is this the skill that matches this operation? You have to set up the system in order for this to scale on a large basis. So I love what you share. I do want to respect your time. I would love to hear if someone who is kind of new or who haven't thought about working with a closer or working with a sales guy like yourself what would be a good step. I know you kind of covered this a little bit.
Keith:Up the lead flow. Tell me more. The best perfect step is up the lead flow. Okay, the best problem that you can have in your life is having 10 calls a day back-to-back bookings. Once you have that problem, then we can start talking about a closer, because there's no point in bringing in a closer if we don't have bookings for that closer to close and if you don't have leads in order to get those bookings. You got to sort out that problem and maybe in the middle you need to hire a person to sort out the leads, to put them on the calendar. So, up the lead flow.
Keith:Marketing you've got to start at marketing and if your marketing is not on point, then we don't need to talk about building a sales team. It's kind of that simple. I'm sorry for the blunt answer but unfortunately you just got to put the boots on the ground and up that lead flow before you're ready to get into this conversation. It sucks. The only piece of advice I'll give those people is that it's not going to cost you that much to spend a couple of hours and just make sure that you have a sales operation, a CRM, a platform. Hire someone for an hour or two and just say look, how do I build a basic sales up for what I'm trying to do here? Because if you don't do that, what you're going to be doing over the next six to 12 months is you're going to be building a house with no foundations, and we all know how that's going to go down.
Michelle:You're preaching to the choir. I love that. So I do have a couple of rapid fire questions that I thought I would just throw you off a little bit and put you on the spot. So we kind of talked about AI. So here we go with the rapid fire AI a game changer or a tool that we overhyped.
Keith:Game changer.
Michelle:If you could describe your work in one word, what would it be?
Keith:CRM.
Michelle:What's your favorite stage, moment or story that you have shared?
Keith:Favorite story that you have shared. Favorite story that I've shared?
Michelle:I don't know about having fun on the formula one track with a toyota corolla. Were you there on formula one?
Keith:it's not hard to figure out who I am. Just so that we're clear.
Michelle:I was really surprised that you put it onto the form that I had submitted and I'm like Formula One Wow, I wish I was there. It was in Vegas.
Keith:Everything in life can be explained with car analogies Everything.
Michelle:Everything huh.
Keith:Everything.
Michelle:I'm going to have to invite you back for another episode. What's one prediction that you have for the future business in the next five years?
Keith:I'll be sitting over there having a coffee watching myself AI do the clothes for me.
Michelle:What is one tool or app that you can live without?
Keith:Salesforce. Sorry, but I love it.
Michelle:Okay, okay, I'm going to take down the notes. Looking to Salesforce All right, so if someone who's interested to work with you or hire you or have you come in to evaluate where they are, where would they find you?
Keith:CFcloserscom is where you can find me all my social links. Facebook I'm pretty active on, linkedin I'm a little bit more reserved on, because we're doing business there and if anybody just wants to get started, either check out the Facebook groups we've got or cfcloserscom forward slash U-F-C-R-M. You'll have to go to the page and see what it stands for. I don't know if there's kids potentially watching this, but let's just say we're going to fix that CRM and there's a free course there for anyone who wants to get a better understanding of how this works.
Michelle:Thank you so much, keith, for your time, and I wish you the best and hopefully I'll see you in the next F1 race.
Keith:Thank you so much, Michelle.
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